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Jeremy P. Madsen's avatar

Amazing, amazing essay! Once again, love your spot-on examples of how different stories deal with the implications of their magic systems.

I think your essay helps explain why the 6-season superhero show "Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir" has gotten a lot of flak from the fan base: It's not consistent in how it treats its magic.

In many episodes, it dodges deep implications through its this-is-just-a-fun-kids-show tone. (The villain of the day created a volcano so powerful it was literally pushing the Earth closer to the Sun? Eh, the magic butterflies fixed it, and we'll never revisit that potential power.)

But other episodes, and major season arcs, are deep explorations of the wide range of implications from the world's magic system. (The villain is trying to bring back someone from the dead, which will require remaking the whole universe and causing someone else to have died instead, rewriting the last several years of history. Or in one episode, the main character is pulled into a time-travel adventure to prevent an alternate timeline where central France (and the moon) is blown up by a corrupted version of her superhero partner, leaving her with lasting trauma and trust issues for the next season [but only when useful to a particular episode's plot, otherwise it's not there].)

The show seems to alternate between a don't-take-things-too-seriously kids show and a explore-the-deep-themes-of-life YA show, and the switches back and forth from episode to episode are rather jarring.

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Eric Falden's avatar

Thanks, Jeremy. That sounds like a total tonal nightmare tbh. Good example.

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J. M. Allen's avatar

I appreciate y'all so much for putting these together. You've given me a lot of things to consider.

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Ian Dunmore's avatar

Thanks JM! We’re glad you got so much value out of it!

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NJ Fiction's avatar

This was excellent loved the whole series!! (And I agree about subbed over dubbed)

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Ian Dunmore's avatar

Yes! Subbed all the way! And we’re glad you liked it, NJ!

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Leanne Shawler's avatar

Came for the essay on magic systems, stayed for the snarky captions and footnotes.

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Ian Dunmore's avatar

We had way too much fun with those, we couldn’t help ourselves!

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Devon Nako's avatar

I'm always impressed by these incisive breakdowns of stories that I already loved, but can now appreciation from a craft perspective. The point I'm taking away from this piece is that as the writer, you need to be judicious about how and when you use tools like lampshading, and maybe sit down with your beta readers and walk through all the likely questions that will arise from your chosen magic system. Have you seen a graphic breakdown of the most famous systems? I'm considering making one, but it would be 100x easier as a community collaboration, and I think the end result would be an amazing tool for fantasy writers + nerdy readers.

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Eric Falden's avatar

Yes; it's all about being intentional. An author might never avoid every possible question that arises—just as they cannot control every possible interpretation of their work—nor should they try. However, authorial awareness goes a long way. I haven't seen graphical breakdowns, though I'm sure there are others who have tried to plot famous systems onto the spectrum in a visual way.... Could be helpful indeed.

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Michael S. Atkinson's avatar

This was an absolutely amazing essay, and now I'm thinking through what the magic of my world says; the Edison City stories don't' really have magic per se but technically that's a narrative choice too although to be fair there's a bit of lampshading going on...but anyway. I'm thinking out loud here now . this was awesome!

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Ian Dunmore's avatar

Thank you, Michael! And for sure, a lot of these articles were to get the gears turning. Glad you liked it!

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George Dismas's avatar

Excellent conclusion, a hearty thank you to the pair of you. Magic serves the story, the story serves the worldview. This should be in creative writing 101.

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Eric Falden's avatar

🫡 honored by your words, George.

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Mohammed Elsoukkary's avatar

a brilliant capstone to an amazing series of articles. a pleasure to read !

this part had me rolling on the floor laughing becasue I have noticed the trend interspersed through many fanatasy worlds "Plenty of stories use tone for levity. Without it, Indiana Jones would be a mass-murderer, Bugs Bunny would be a domestic terrorist, and most romance male love interests would have restraining orders out against them."

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Eric Falden's avatar

Glad it was helpful, Mohammed! Thanks for reading along with us.

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Mohammed Elsoukkary's avatar

it was brilliant Eric.

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Ed the Editor's avatar

The book I’m working on is soft magic, but is likely evolving into hard magic as the protagonist learns.

I hadn’t really thought about it in these terms before. This article and the definitions brought understanding and turned the soft magic of writing into hard magic technology.

Love the snark.

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Ian Dunmore's avatar

Glad you liked it, Ed! And best of luck with the book!

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E. H. Lau's avatar

Loved the three part series!

The breadth of examples was very helpful, as well as the depth of discussion are the spectrum between hard and soft magic, how to address such systems in the story, etc.!

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Ian Dunmore's avatar

Glad you enjoyed it, EH! We had a lot of fun coming up with examples.

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W.'s avatar

We love to see Owen Barfield getting some time in the sun! He's too often in the shadow of Tolkien and Lewis.

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Ian Dunmore's avatar

We agree! And his thought was so instrumental to the others, his name deserves inclusion in more Tolkien and Lewis scholarship.

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Koltin Scott's avatar

“The Law of Equivalent Exchange lurks above them like a specter.”

Reminds me of the Sword of Damocles for some reason 🤔

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Ian Dunmore's avatar

I replied to this when I had poor internet and scant sleep and thought the Sword of Damocles was a book. This makes a lot more sense.

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Michael Curl's avatar

This is very good, not even finished reading it yet.

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Ian Dunmore's avatar

Thanks so much, we’re glad you liked it! Not sure what we’ll be tackling next as a subject, any ideas for us?

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